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    ride height, chain rollers and chain length.

    i only got a chance to look at my bike for 5mins lastnight before someone called me, but i did notice/think of something.


    ok, i know most aftermarket shocks raise the rear right height (and are adjustible)... thats great, id love to raise the rear about an inch higher.

    but then i started looking at my (very worn) chain slider.



    if i raise the rear, i'll probly need a chain roller to keep it off the frame.
    if i need a chain roller, then i'll need a longer chain.
    while im getting a longer chain, i might as well do the sprockets.
    if im getting new sprockets and a new chain, nows the time to swap over to a 520.
    and while im back there, i need new cushdrive rubbers.


    i hate how this all builds on itself.....ugh.


    i know about the hiperform chain roller.. anyone else know of any good ones?

    whats a good(cheap) source for 520 conversion front/rear sprockets?

    #2
    I just put a 900rr shock on and haven't seen the need for a new chain. Hope I'm not wrong, I just got it last year. I sent an e-mail to Hiperform last friday but haven't heard from them yet. If there is a cheaper (yet easy) alternative I'd be interested in knowing also. The cush drive is easy and cheap, also worth doing. Did mine last year, just order from Hord. Now I'm just waiting for springs, jet kit, pads, and rear brake line kit from Hord. Hopefully soon. I'm going crazy waiting for something to do on the bike since I can't ride.
    -God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because they annoyed me.

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      #3
      Originally Posted by icycle
      I just put a 900rr shock on and haven't seen the need for a new chain. Hope I'm not wrong, I just got it last year. I sent an e-mail to Hiperform last friday but haven't heard from them yet. If there is a cheaper (yet easy) alternative I'd be interested in knowing also. The cush drive is easy and cheap, also worth doing. Did mine last year, just order from Hord. Now I'm just waiting for springs, jet kit, pads, and rear brake line kit from Hord. Hopefully soon. I'm going crazy waiting for something to do on the bike since I can't ride.
      checkout the second option here:
      www.geocities.com/bender647/hawkgt/roller.html


      i think i may make a bracket myself.. i donno..

      im just guessing at the chain length part from looking at it, i havent measured or anything.

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        #4
        i never herd of any others (doesnt mean that there arnt any)
        i have a hyperform chain roller and i can give you dimension drawing of the bracket if you want to make one. i plan to replace the roller with a modified skateboard wheel. everything else can be gotten at your local home depot.

        sprocket specialist was who i used to order from but i think they stoped making stuff for the hawk.
        sum of all parts has 520 chain & sprocket sets on ebay for a reasonable price. you could always go to there website direct too. make sure they send you the gearing you want. last set i got i only wanted to use chain and rear sprocket so i didnt pay much attention to the front sprocket. well the old set up didnt work with the new set up so i had to use the front sprocket that cam with the set. it had one extra tooth, i still dont get how i could loose topend speed and low end acceleration but that seams to be what happen. o crap another thing i forgot needs to be changed on the bike before it goes to the track ya thanks for reminding me i need to spend more money...
        1988 & 1991 hawkgt, 2005 rc51

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          #5
          NT650hawks Dad makes em....

          Don't know if that was letting the cat out of the bag or not...?

          As for chain and sprockets.
          http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=330096255783
          BIKES: Honda: RC31 Racebike/ NT650 Streetbike, DUCATI: None at the moment.
          Former MSF Rider Coach / Trackday Instructor/ Expert Roadracer #116
          "I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow."

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            #6
            I run a CBR 900 shock also. I never paid much attention to chain length, as it gets cut to the needed length anyways when you replace it. From the box it is 120 links. Stock Hawk size is 112 links. I dont imagine that raising the rear by an inch alters the chain path at the front sprocket / slider significantly. Certainly within the range of the eccentric.
            I did however get tired of replacing the lower rubber chain slider, and made a solid one from hard plastic. (UHMW) A bit noisier, but it gets quieter as it 'breaks in' and no worries about a roller and bracket and stuff. Cut it on a bandsaw and drill press to be the same shape as the original, so it is a direct bolt-in swap. - Just another option to think about.
            -I'm sorry....I did not know she was your sister.
            -If Buckleys cold mixture went rancid......how would anybody know????
            -Dont piss off the quiet guy with the chain saw.

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              #7
              i think i may make a bracket myself.. i donno..
              If you feel like making two let me know. My arsenal of tools for fabrication consist of a hacksaw, cordless drill, and a limited tool kit. Needless to say I'm sick of sawing metal for the winter. I did my plate/rear signal bracket, front signal brackets, and shock res. holder all by hand. I think I made it look pretty decent. The metal was some stainless steel from an industrial stove hood. Getting a little old. God only knows where the closest metal fab shop is from here. I may be able to fab something up. I'll have to look a little when I get home to see what I can come up with.
              -God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because they annoyed me.

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                #8
                if you want to make a "hyperform" type bracket its 1/4" alluminum
                and it bolts to where the rear sets go
                and there is another one on the other side to move the rear sets up 1" and back 1" or maybe one of those dimensions was 2" i cant remember.

                a scroll saw with a metal blade would be like a $30-40 tool from local store.

                much less work than a hacksaw
                1988 & 1991 hawkgt, 2005 rc51

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                  #9
                  I took the stock "rubber material" stock block and copied it in Nylatron or some other hard teflon impregnated plastic or ultra high molecular weight nylon. It seems to do the trick, really no wear in the 800 miles I have put on it. The rear of mine is raised about 3/4"; so if you are way higher, this may not work for you?
                  I just did a saw and sand and even pressed out the metal tube in the old one and stuffed it in mine.
                  All I can think of is that Honda wanted something quieter so they used a "soft" material.

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                    #10
                    Originally Posted by Doc
                    NT650hawks Dad makes em....

                    Don't know if that was letting the cat out of the bag or not...?

                    As for chain and sprockets.
                    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=330096255783
                    Hey Doc that link is for some really expensive sprockets.

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                      #11
                      Originally Posted by Doc
                      NT650hawks Dad makes em....

                      Don't know if that was letting the cat out of the bag or not...?
                      they're the way to go. it's all you'll find on LRRS hawks.
                      ...

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                        #12
                        Originally Posted by scott
                        Originally Posted by Doc
                        NT650hawks Dad makes em....

                        Don't know if that was letting the cat out of the bag or not...?
                        they're the way to go. it's all you'll find on LRRS hawks.
                        So how does one go about aquiring one then?
                        Mike/Kilter
                        They smile because I'm different--I laugh because they are all the same

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                          #13
                          Chain rollers are in stock and sell for $50 plus shipping.
                          Let me know if you need one.
                          Rod
                          www.hiperform.com

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                            #14
                            Photo of Hiperform chain roller installed...

                            My only complaint is the quality of the hardware, I would have paid more for something other than the cheapo cad plated screws, of which I only used the lower one, not shown...





                            And the condition of the stock slider...


                            whatsoever your hand should find to do, do it gladly, because there is no work, love, knowledge, or wisdom in the grave...

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                              #15
                              You're right about the fasteners but overall I think it's a quality item. Plus I like supporting the small business. Off topic what are those rearsets and where did you get them from?

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