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    6 spd Hawk?

    Did Honda ever offer a 6-speed for the Hawk GT?

    I like the 6spd on my GS500E, but it needs it since it has no torque
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    #2
    pretty sure honda didn't, however there used to be a kit from two brothers(?) that was a 6spd close ratio tranny
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      #3
      Cool, thankyou very much. I'm sure once I test ride one I won't even notice the missing 6th gear. Can't wait for that V-Twin
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        #4
        FWIW,the TBR kit was just a Bros 400 tranny.


        The standard box works great,other than typical Honda clunkiness,for the NT.

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          #5
          And it was a 5-speed. No 6-speeds exist that I know of.
          J.D. Hord
          Keeper of Engine Nomenclature, 9th Order

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            #6
            So is the Bros 400 the close ratio tranny? Is that a bolt in mod?
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              #7
              Doc, read Joel's first sentence above.

              TBR Close ratio kit = Bros 400.

              Actually what TBR did was buy a bunch of Bros400 3-4-5 gearsets and re-package them. It is a "bolt-in" mod relatively but what happens, it lowers the 3-4-5 ratios. Sooo... ya gotta fit a 17 T front sprocket and go smaller on the rear to get the same top speed. That's where the fun starts. The 17T sprocket will only fit if you grind clearance into the shift shaft. With smaller rear sprockets the chain eats into the swingarm slider more- especially if you are running a flipped eccentric. So then ya gotta make a custom chain slider. Fun stuff.

              I have a CR trans in my bike. It's nice but not totally necessary.
              J.D. Hord
              Keeper of Engine Nomenclature, 9th Order

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                #8
                Originally Posted by Hordpower
                Doc, read Joel's first sentence above.

                TBR Close ratio kit = Bros 400.

                Actually what TBR did was buy a bunch of Bros400 3-4-5 gearsets and re-package them. It is a "bolt-in" mod relatively but what happens, it lowers the 3-4-5 ratios. Sooo... ya gotta fit a 17 T front sprocket and go smaller on the rear to get the same top speed. That's where the fun starts. The 17T sprocket will only fit if you grind clearance into the shift shaft. With smaller rear sprockets the chain eats into the swingarm slider more- especially if you are running a flipped eccentric. So then ya gotta make a custom chain slider. Fun stuff.

                I have a CR trans in my bike. It's nice but not totally necessary.
                That is the answer I wanted. All hail his Hordliness.
                BIKES: Honda: RC31 Racebike/ NT650 Streetbike, DUCATI: None at the moment.
                Former MSF Rider Coach / Trackday Instructor/ Expert Roadracer #116
                "I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow."

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                  #9
                  I've got the TBR CR in mine. With the 16/44 it turns about 1000 rpm more at any given speed in 5th.

                  SH
                  "Momentum is your friend" www.moto234.com

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                    #10
                    Originally Posted by Hordpower View Post
                    I have a CR trans in my bike. It's nice but not totally necessary.
                    Okay... so what's the adantage of the CR trans?
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                      #11
                      Originally Posted by dagus View Post
                      Okay... so what's the advantage of the CR trans?
                      Smaller drops in revs between gears. If I remember correctly stock 5th has an overdrive ratio. Great for cruising, not so great for accelerating. Stock Hawks have so much torque that the stock ratios are fine. My RGV250 is another story altogether.
                      Garth H
                      San Jose, CA, USA
                      '91 Hawk w/700cc Kit and Africa Twin Cams

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                        #12
                        again, I say..I have the 525 chain 17 tooth sprocket and it fit right in..no grinding or anything..Is my output shaft- shifter shaft different or what??
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                          #13
                          Originally Posted by zymmer4 View Post
                          again, I say..I have the 525 chain 17 tooth sprocket and it fit right in..no grinding or anything..Is my output shaft- shifter shaft different or what??
                          Sorry to bump this old thread, but I've searched and couldn't find the answer. Where did you get your 525 17T sprocket that didn't require notching the shift shaft or grinding the teeth? I'd like to try a 17T next time around.
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                            #14
                            I have a 17 tooth sprocket also. No grinding. From sprocket specialists.
                            Brian - Richland, WA
                            1991 Hawk GT

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                            #15
                            If the 17 is a +1 over stock, then that is what I have too from SS. Just clears without notching.
                            '88 Hawk GT (in restoration), '13 NC700x, '01 Buell Blast

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