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  • Wheel questions - [1] light front wheel [2] why not Ducati 1098 wheel?

    Hi guys - I've been pouring way too many hours into scouring the information all over this forum, and have a couple questions that my persistent use of the search function hasn't found threads or answers for. [I'd be happy to post these questions on appropriate already-existing threads if someone could point me to them]

    [1] How would one go about converting/adapting a light forged front wheel to a Hawk using stock forks [properly sprung/valved/set up]? I've been sold on light wheels since 2020 when I replaced the heaviest-available OEM cast wheels on my track bike with forged factory wheels and took the time to set up the suspension to match - so sweet. I saw that member behindthetimes mentioned 'Carro' wheels and how they give a Hawk dancing shoes. He must have meant Carrozzeria wheels and probably has fit a light front wheel or two to a Hawk in his time, but he doesn't accept PMs, so I'm asking here. Another example would be if a Hawker were so brazen as to acquire from Tyga a set of PVM wheels for the NC35, how would the front wheel be adapted? Front rotor size/offset, bearings, axle spacers, caliper adapter bracket, and other elements must all come into play, but it seems silly to start from scratch when at least a few folks on the forum must have adapted lightweight wheels to their Hawks.

    [2] Why can't the Ducati 'big bike' rear wheels be adapted to Hawk spindles? [1098, 1198, and some other large spindle Ducs with 5.5" rear wheels] The small spindle Ducati rear wheels [748, 848, 916, 996, 998 etc] need to have their center holes enlarged to fit a Hawk spindle, so it seems that the larger center hole of the big spindle wheels would be advantageous. Even if the hole is too big, couldn't it be centered with a locating cone?

    Thanks for any input offered!

  • #2
    As often happens, just phrasing the question helps to answer it. Searching some more with ‘Carrozzeria’ and ‘forged wheel’ brought a lot more info to light. The knowledge here runs deep.

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    • #3
      Just buy used ducati forged wheels, they are cheaper. More bang for the buck. And more available in fleabay.
      If you do get lucky and find carrozzeria wheel...do not wait. I have been searching for some good used ones for years and found one front wheel that I am adapting to a cbr600rr forks. If you are spending money on wheels, you should consider swapping out the forks as well. For an example, ducati front wheel will fit into cbr929rr forks pretty easily with custom spacers only with added washers to calipers.

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      • #4
        69Falcon has Duc wheels. Few guys do. They are great.

        The aftermarket wheels allow a light wheel that doesn't have to run a 170-180 tire which is way more than the hawk needs. + Smaller = lighter.

        Mainly it comes down to $ and time man. Look around, you will see just about every wheel you can think of has been fit to a hawk at some point.

        Behind the Times isn't on the forum right now. He will be back at some point if I had to bet.
        Don't spend money and buy, spend time and learn.

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        • #5
          Thanks for the solid advice Superdukerider and 6. You’re right - it’s amazing the vast number of adaptions that have been done with Hawks!

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          • #6
            I got Duc forged on mine. I like them so much, they've been on 2 Ducs before and on my current Hawk now. Front end uses 848 front end with a hybrid Duc / Honda triple. Rear end went the mostly Duc route (small hub). I basically built my Hawk around the wheels. It's as if my avatar said the same thing!
            Eric Y.
            Hawk test chassis
            Yuzon Designworks

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            • #7
              F14 has a modern Duc set up.

              FFWD has an older Duc wheel/eccentric, sprocket/wildwhl brake mount/Duc caliper set up. Custom sleeve makes up the difference I diameter of the Hawk bore/Ducati eccentric.

              There are also a few members with PVM wheels made specifically for Hawk fitment.

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              • #8
                Currently running the small duc eccentric with a spacer on the rear, and custom captive spacers up front.
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                • #9
                  So light...
                  88 Blue Hawk GT - Under construction but rideable (guest approved)
                  89 BlackHawk 2.0 - On the lift and being assembled
                  90 Hawk GT (color as to yet be determined) - Still on the shelf in crates

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                  • #10
                    Cool - all those Ducati wheels are looking great. Great to find that members here have worked out the conversions - Ducati hubs with spacer/shims and modified Hawk spindles. I just picked up a hub/spindle/cush from another member, so have one to work with. Light wheels are down the road a bit, as getting the 89 running is the current priority, but might as well start getting ready.

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                    • #11
                      Originally Posted by rpcraft
                      So light...
                      I got the same "chicken feet" wheel for my spare Hawk. Not forged but still light for a cast wheel and the spokes look decently thin. Easier to find than the Honda 8 spoke and possibly lighter. I should weigh them. I may CeraKote mine the same titanium color as my CB-1 headers.
                      Eric Y.
                      Hawk test chassis
                      Yuzon Designworks

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                      • #12
                        I thought these were the wheels folks call chicken feet?
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                        • #13
                          Ah, I stand corrected. I do have the same wheels as RP but not those triple spokes. Yeah, those really look like it's nickname!
                          Eric Y.
                          Hawk test chassis
                          Yuzon Designworks

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                          • #14
                            ey, your wheels would definitely look good in titanium Cerakote.

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                            • #15
                              I doubt I would waste Cerakote on wheels when powder coat will do fine and probably be a little more resistant to road dings and scratches overall.
                              88 Blue Hawk GT - Under construction but rideable (guest approved)
                              89 BlackHawk 2.0 - On the lift and being assembled
                              90 Hawk GT (color as to yet be determined) - Still on the shelf in crates

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