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Speaking of hookers... What kinda rubbers y'all wearing?
Speaking of hookers... What kinda rubbers y'all wearing?
Hahaha, I means on yer bikes! I was looking at the Avon Storms and wondered what everyone else was running. My bike is street only, not track, not racing.... er.... uh.. yea. Avon.jpg
Current rubber is Dunlop Q3+. However, I prefer Bridgestone S22s for sporty street stuff. My next tires will be Michelin Pilot Road 5s based on the sort of riding and mileage I do lately.
Current rubber is Dunlop Q3+. However, I prefer Bridgestone S22s for sporty street stuff. My next tires will be Michelin Pilot Road 5s based on the sort of riding and mileage I do lately.
I like the Michelins. There were a few years there I would run nothing but Pilots... so sticky and squishy. I always equated Bridgestone's for those that like to predictable slide in the corners, as that was always my impression of them. Metzlers are also one of my favs.
Street tire, whatever is cheap. (end answer, start rant)
Bridgestones, at least as of a few years ago i loved for the reason you stated. They where the only tire i would race on (the contingency money help too).
On the street there is absolutely no way to ride a bike to that limit, the pavement, conditions, tire heat, surroundings, just don't allow riding to that same level. You can not get and keep a tire hot on the street, and no one pushes any even remotely new tire to the grip limit street riding. I ride pretty f'n hard on the street, at no point am i ever fighting for grip even on cheaper older rubber.
The things that make you loose grip on the street, things like BIG mistakes, sand, fluids, debris, pot holes, salt collections, are things that road tires actually handle better than "performance" tires. . .
If you are on clean dry pavement, on a hawk, on the street, and are riding hard enough to be sliding either tire while looking for grip, you wont be riding long. IMO (SOME street racers and canyon racers (i have heard of, but not seen, these canyon races) on roads they know and use like a track aside...... Maybe. If they are closed, blown off and walked first... Even street racing i couldn't ride to the level i did club racing. Or keep a tire hot. All my street racing crashes where from things that no tire would have saved me from.)
IMO, the performance street tire wars are marketing wars except for fast track day guys and decent racers on the track. "sticky" tires are for the track.. Normal tires are plenty "sticky" for the street and are made to operate at street temps and street conditions.
I use Michelin Pilot Road and Road tires. I ride conservatively so it doesn't really matter that much but I have found these to have much better grip in the rain and they last much longer without squaring off. So in my mind, they come out cheaper in the long run because I don't replace them as often. Not quite sure if that is true or not but that is what my mind tells me.
OH I remember now... any thoughts on "AVON"? I've had good results with the "gripsters" on my DR650, but have never tried their street tires.
Gino can control ride in the fast group on cheap Avon's on a stock hawk. Imo (and I believe his) they are fine. Dude runs times on them that would land him top half in an Amateur ULSB race and win the Novice race by a lap and a half.
And lean angle and speed are not necessarily related. I used to measure a rider by the "chicken strips" but you will see dudes pull in to the pits after winning a race with 1/2" of un-touched tire, you will see dudes with the tire worn to the edge who are 6 seconds a lap off. You can lean a bike pretty far while still going pretty slow. Look at those parking lot motorcycle agility dudes (not sure what that's called) they put those things side to side to side going like 8mph.. love watching them!!! Skillz to!
That's not at all aimed at you Ziggy. I'm sure you ride very well and for sure that's somthing most riders can not do.. just saying to the op, don't feel bad about the strips and start chasing lean angle. Just saying ride at your comfort level.
Currently running Avon Roadriders in the standard sizes because they are British made and it's not easy to get locally made motorbike gear.
I had a pair of Maxxis that came with the bike and they felt twitchy in low speed turns almost as if the pressures were wrong the Avon's I just forgot about them and rode the bike.
I put Shinkos on my R6 and my Hawk because they were the least expensive, had cool names, and, most of all, they were black, round, and had some rain grooves.
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Look at those parking lot motorcycle agility dudes (not sure what that's called) they put those things side to side to side going like 8mph.. love watching them!!! Skillz to!
HAH.... I just remembered colored Tomahawks! AWESOME! Okay be honest, who thinks these are a good idea, campy idea, rediculous idea, etc... frankly I kinda like laying down a strip of blue rubber, though it'll probably give anybody Mesothelioma.
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HAH.... I just remembered colored Tomahawks! AWESOME! Okay be honest, who thinks these are a good idea, campy idea, rediculous idea, etc... frankly I kinda like laying down a strip of blue rubber, though it'll probably give anybody Mesothelioma.
Fucking love it.
I'd do the blues in a heartbeat... Love them on the speedway bike, but I doubt they make a fim speedway tire in colors. Wouldn't hesitate to stick them in the street hawk either.
Different is good, sometimes ugly, but good .. and I think those would fall on cool different.
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