Pitbull TRS for Hawk running VFR750 rear wheel

[Rick]

Found a few discussions on this topic, but no final details.

Wondering if anyone has figured out a solution for the Pitbull TRS on a Hawk running VFR750 rear wheel.
Best advice I've gotten from Pitbull so far is to buy multiple sets of pins and try them out myself.

[bk94si]

I have a Hawk and a 97 VFR and I use the same Pitbull stand (with the same pin) for both of them.

[bk94si]

Oops, nevermind, I see you are talking about something else.

[Rick]

Yes. Talking about their Trailer Restraint System. But, thanks for the reply.

[rpcraft]

Pitbull setups are usually very robust but looking at the instructions they don't seem to even know what all VFR models there system will fit. Not sure how hard could be to figure out and design for. That being said I think you are just going to have to venture into the buy and try approach of finding out. Do you know if they offer any return policy on the different pins if you need to buy another one? It Looks like you are going to need a different size for either side at any rate. That being said I would just buy what you need for the Hawk and if the pin is too large it can be machined down easily, and if it is too small a sleeve can be machined easily to size it up.

[Captain 80s]

So what is the potential problem if you ordered the VFR model? The right side pin size? Width difference?

[Rick]

Pitbull setups are usually very robust but looking at the instructions they don't seem to even know what all VFR models there system will fit. Not sure how hard could be to figure out and design for. That being said I think you are just going to have to venture into the buy and try approach of finding out. Do you know if they offer any return policy on the different pins if you need to buy another one? It Looks like you are going to need a different size for either side at any rate. That being said I would just buy what you need for the Hawk and if the pin is too large it can be machined down easily, and if it is too small a sleeve can be machined easily to size it up.

Agreed. Think I saw a couple of different part numbers just for the VFR750.
Their rep advised the right pins are different between the VFR750 and Hawk. So, it's looking like I'd have to get both kits and use the left one for the Hawk and right one for the VFR. But there may also be width difference to contend with.

[Rick]

So what is the potential problem if you ordered the VFR model? The right side pin size? Width difference?

Their rep advised the left pins are different between the VFR and Hawk.
And, I imagine width difference may be the biggest issue?

[bk94si]

I was just looking at my bikes. I know from my rear stand that the left sides are the same size. The right sides are extremely different with the Hawk being almost pencil sized. I bet the VFR kit would work on a Hawk with VFR wheel. Unless the width comes into it and can't be altered. I took rough measurements and the VFR is about 10" side to side vs the Hawk about 9" (those measurements are very rough).

[bk94si]

Their rep advised the left pins are different between the VFR and Hawk.
And, I imagine width difference may be the biggest issue?

Maybe depends on the year? Or maybe one is longer than the other but I can tell you they are the same circumference.

[rpcraft]

It does depend on the year I believe and certain years of the VFR have a different diameter size. i would ask them for size of the pin for various years and plan accordingly I would get the stand for the Hawk and then it should be correct on the left side even though technically many years of the hawk and VFR are the same, they probably just don't know it quite the way we do, then get a pin for the right hand side size wheel for whatever year VFR wheel you have.

[Rick]

Maybe depends on the year? Or maybe one is longer than the other but I can tell you they are the same circumference.

Thanks!
This clears the left side, at least. Now I wonder if I should just take a gamble with the VFR kit.

[Rick]

It does depend on the year I believe and certain years of the VFR have a different diameter size. i would ask them for size of the pin for various years and plan accordingly I would get the stand for the Hawk and then it should be correct on the left side even though technically many years of the hawk and VFR are the same, they probably just don't know it quite the way we do, then get a pin for the right hand side size wheel for whatever year VFR wheel you have.

The rep I chatted with advised they do not give out measurements for their pins, so that's a no go.
At $100+ per kit, I'm hoping to at least narrow it down to which kit may require the least amount of modifications to work.

[rpcraft]

Well. I’ve just found and watched one of the videos for the setup for a Ducati SSSA, here is what I would do personally if you really want this unit, Which is what I recomended originally. Order for the Hawk, then it will surely come with at least one pin and a sleeve that corresponds for each side of the hawk and I am sure the swingarm side will be 100 % correct. if the other pin for the wheel size is too large or small it can be machined or an adapter ands spacer can be made in it’s place. They don’t give out their dimensions because it would probably take someone about 10 dollars in material and access to a lathe to reproduce it (and probably less than an hour depending on the shape and technical dimensions.. If you don’t have someone local then send me a message. All I would need is some measurements for what needs to go into the stand, what needs to go into your wheel, and a good picture of your pin that doesn’t fit, next to a ruler (for a scale - no bananas please). Otherwise if you have someone local they should be able to figure it out quickly. The unit that goes into the wheel in most regards is just an aluminum sleeve/collar so it would really just depend on the VFR wheel and maybe if you included a photo of the wheel you have the collective of Hawk knowledge can help fill in some gaps without you even picking up a measuring device.

[Captain 80s]

I have a Hawk w/ 1995 VFR real wheel, a 1995 VFR with stock wheel, 1992 VFR with stock 8 spoke and a 1990 VFR with a 1998 VFR rear wheel. Anything I can measure for you?