Clarification on front ends please

[cfiiman]

I know that certain front ends will bolt up with slight modifications from doing searches and reading...But then I read some posts where the author states it like nothing needs to be modified...The way I understand it is as follows:

Front Ends that fit with slight modification:

F2 and F3

Front ends that fit no modification?:

600RR, RC51, and something else I forgot

Is this correct or do I have it totally wrong...If this is a useless post admin please delete, I just want clarification as I am new to modding...

[MrDude_1]

the RC51 one is the only one i know.

if you use the SP1 triple, the only mods are:

1. you need to make new bump stops... this is done by drilling/tapping the existing ones, and putting screws in.

2. you will need a new speedo.

3. you need to find a new way to mount the dash/gauges

4. obviously, you will need larger clipons, and a new tire for the wider rim.



but other then the bumpstops and speedo, yes you could slip it from one frame, and into the hawks... ball bearings and all match.

[Hanadad]

FYI, there is a complete 954 front end advertized on NYC Craig's List.

[tkm433]

Re: Clarification on front ends please

I know that certain front ends will bolt up with slight modifications from doing searches and reading...But then I read some posts where the author states it like nothing needs to be modified...The way I understand it is as follows:

Front Ends that fit with slight modification:

F2 and F3

Front ends that fit no modification?:

600RR, RC51, and something else I forgot

Is this correct or do I have it totally wrong...If this is a useless post admin please delete, I just want clarification as I am new to modding...

If you want to keep your stock speedometer then go with athe CBR600F2 front end. The CBR600F2 forks will fit the stock Hawk triple clamps and this will allow for you to use the stock headlight, and speedo/tach. The F2 front wheel has a speedo drive on it. You will need to do a slight mod to the CBR600F2 clip-ons or you can still use your stock Hawk clip-ons with no mods. With the F2 clipons you will need to use shorter throttle and clutch cables.

The F3 and VFR with 41mm forks will also mount in the stock Hawk triples but will not allow the use of the stock speeometer unless you use a F2 front wheel. The F3 and VFR speedo does not run off of the front wheel.

If you can find a NSR250MC21 fork it will slide into the stock Hawk triples but you will need to find firmer springs. The NSR forks require you to mount the clip-ons under the upper triple clamp which for some might be to agressive of a riding position.

I have a mix of NSR250 lower legs, brakes and fender with a CBR600F2 front wheel and disc with Hawk upper fork tubes, triple clamps and CBR600f2 clip-ons on my Hawk. So you can mix and match as needed.

If you can find a CB-1 right fork leg and brake you use it with your stock Hawk left leg and a F2 front wheel and you will have twin disc setup.

[jaysun0ne]

lol thats a simple question to ask but as you can see a hard question to answer.

it all depends what your goal for a fork mod would be

first question i would ask my self if i where you:

is keeping my stock speedo important to me?

if the answer is "yes" your options are narrowed down alot

your only rim upgrade is the f2 it allows you to run a 120 tire
and gives you the option of running dual brakes but you dont have to
i have seen stock forks with a f2 rim and no brake disk on one side

has for forks you have a few options as mentioned above if you can find cb1 right fork lower that will give you dual brake option. f2, f3 and some of the f4 forks all have the same fork diameter has the hawk so you can swap forks out real easy or you can mix match parts from all the bikes.

i recently learned first hand that stock hawk upper tubes will not work with f2-f3 inturnals, but im sure the lowers can be swithed to whatever configuration you want.

if the hawk speedo is not that important then you can ditch the entire front end and use a cbr600rr, rc51 (with an sp1 triple) cbr1000rr and im sure there are others but i know those three have been used before. and with these options the main thing they offer is an increased cool factor.

so if your moding on a budget go with f2-f3 inturnals and upper tubes
and start looking for the f2 rim and brakes that route will be the best bang for your buck.

if money is no concern to you and you just want to make your unusual bike even more unusual go with the complete front end of a late model cbr or older rc51 (sp2 started in 2002 i think)

well theres my attept to answer your question good luck

handle bars and a rim are the only thing i need for my 05 cbr1000rr front end. so close

just got the fender and top triple today

[cfiiman]

Thanks guys for all the help, I guess I'm just gonna stay stock for now unless I start going to the track or something, I can't even imagine that I am good enough to need to swap it out...Can a good rider do a lot with the stock hawk? Reason I ask is b/c I would like to increase/push my skills a little but I want the hawk to be able to accept that without killing me...

[jaysun0ne]

then your best bet is to look into progressive springs and valves

an afordable mod that addresses the weak link in the front end and that would be the soft front forks. when you start to do heavy braking a more responsive front will make agressive riding much more enjoyable.

you should be able to do it for less than $100 and the difference will be night and day.

[cfiiman]

Thanks, is there a link somewhere on that mod?

[jaysun0ne]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GOLD-VALVE-GSXR-GSX-GSF-RF-FZR-FJ-YZF-GPZ-ZX-NT650-CBR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ10066QQihZ019QQitemZ290145434991QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

theres the valves on ebay

im not sure where to get a set of springs

[jaysun0ne]

http://www.hawkgtforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1913