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    VFR 5.5" Wheel

    All,
    I am borrowing a friends tools this weekend and alcohol and the consequences allowing will be in the garage on Sunday.

    I just read on Ryans forum that a guy had the standard hub machined and then added a 1/8th spacer between the hub and wheel to centre it.
    Is this correct?
    I hadn't even considered that Honda would use a different offset on the wheel/SA assembly.

    To find out for sure would I measure from wheel 'hub face' to the inner and outer edges of the wheels?

    TIA,
    Marc

    #2
    from what i have herd you only have offset issues when mounting duc rims all honda rims have the same offset, maybe im wrong

    maybe the spacer isnt for centering but for increasing clearance between the tire and swingarm???

    has for cheaking hummm
    im not sure

    you could mark the center of both tires with something that will come off and roll the bike down the drive way if the marks line up you should be close. i guess that would be the easiest way, but maybe not the best way.
    1988 & 1991 hawkgt, 2005 rc51

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      #3
      o ya i forgot you will have both rims to compare to each other

      just set a strait edge on the inside lip of each rim (thats the lip thats on the left side of the bike) and measure to the mounting surface. if the numbers for both rims are the same well then you will know for sure.

      to do this the best way will require both rims off the bike and no tires on them.

      hoped that helped
      1988 & 1991 hawkgt, 2005 rc51

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        #4
        Marc, if you don't get an answer here, you might also want to search the old Hawkgt.com archives. It's been around a while and there's usually a bunch of threads on the different mods. For searches I go directly to

        http://lists.whathelps.com/wa.exe?S1=hawkgt-l&X=-
        '89 Hawk GT

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          #5
          No spacer needed. Offset is the same.
          Faster than your mother... She's what the pros use.

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            #6
            +1
            No spacers are needed. Offset is 19mm to the right hand side of the bike from center.
            just set a strait edge on the inside lip of each rim (thats the lip thats on the left side of the bike) and measure to the mounting surface. if the numbers for both rims are the same well then you will know for sure.
            -That only works if both rim widths are the same. Measure across the rim and subtract the straightedge number to compare.
            -I'm sorry....I did not know she was your sister.
            -If Buckleys cold mixture went rancid......how would anybody know????
            -Dont piss off the quiet guy with the chain saw.

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              #7
              Originally Posted by NT696
              +1
              No spacers are needed. Offset is 19mm to the right hand side of the bike from center.
              just set a strait edge on the inside lip of each rim (thats the lip thats on the left side of the bike) and measure to the mounting surface. if the numbers for both rims are the same well then you will know for sure.
              -That only works if both rim widths are the same. Measure across the rim and subtract the straightedge number to compare.
              o ya a detail i over looked sorry

              brewsy how did it go???
              1988 & 1991 hawkgt, 2005 rc51

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                #8
                Thanks all.
                So its the angle grinder tonight then...
                Lets hope I don't go through the SA....

                OOOoooo ERRRR

                scared...

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                  #9
                  Brewsy:
                  If you are going to angle-grind your Hawk spindle shorter, consider leaving the 'first' diameter intact, and remove the rest. What I mean is not to shave it off mostly flush to the big diameter where the brake disk mounts. Leave the first diameter to fit into the VFR rim, (I think it is a nice snug fit) and take the side forces away from the bolts. I know a lot of forum members just use the VFR studs alone, but that has got to be weaker. Measure the rim hole and the spindle first to see if it is possible.
                  -I'm sorry....I did not know she was your sister.
                  -If Buckleys cold mixture went rancid......how would anybody know????
                  -Dont piss off the quiet guy with the chain saw.

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                    #10
                    Hey 696, I actually had my hub machined by Hord and he took it down flush..

                    I'm actually talking about grinding the swing arm.
                    On my wheel hub combination I've got less than 1mm between the wheel edge and the SA.
                    Dont feel this is enough so want to get up to at least 1 mm and will see if riding it causes any interference issues.

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                      #11
                      wow what about the tire?

                      or when you say wheel you are refiring to the tire?
                      1988 & 1991 hawkgt, 2005 rc51

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                        #12
                        Gotcha.
                        -Clearance to SSSA between rubber tire and cast aluminum. Different brands of tire are wider than theoretical 180 BTW.
                        Do the grinding with the drive chain tension set correct, and allow for a bit of future eccentric movement. I tried to do this with the eccentric loose, and for awhile could not figure out why the clerance was worse as I went along. Learn from my mistake.
                        Hope it goes well.
                        -I'm sorry....I did not know she was your sister.
                        -If Buckleys cold mixture went rancid......how would anybody know????
                        -Dont piss off the quiet guy with the chain saw.

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                          #13
                          Why go to 180? 170 is plenty, used loads of different makes/models on mine over the years with no issues. Never had a dunlop yet, mind ...
                          '95 ShaftHawk 650P>
                          Front: Bros Mk2 front wheel; Mk1 forks; MetalGear disc; NC30 caliper; cb1 yoke.
                          Breathing: Hacked up and shortened ART tri-can on collector and link pipe from DemonTweeks.
                          Other: RGV bars; DefT dash; modded subframe; modded rearsets; relocated ignition.

                          '91 Bros 650 Mk1>
                          Currently off the road.

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                            #14
                            Peeps,
                            still kind of off track..

                            I'm talking about wheel, the big metal spinny thing.. , to SA clearance.
                            That is kind of tight with this wheel in place <1mm

                            The tyre is rubbing now and is a 180..
                            That will be a piece of cake to fix... a nice sharp blade will see to that!

                            180?
                            Why F'ing not. and it looks good.....
                            You don't need it and it slows down steering but I can always pull the bars harder to initiate the turn.

                            Ive kind of already gone far enough down this road that I may as well finish off the job as I wanted to be, you know?

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                              #15
                              there ya go

                              brewsy is one of us now (an american)

                              go big or go home


                              we do everything big here

                              big cars, big houses, big waist lines, lol we like living fat

                              tell him brewsy
                              1988 & 1991 hawkgt, 2005 rc51

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