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    Upgrading rear shock - Any other rear maintenance to be done

    I should be getting my Fox Twin Clicker here in a few days to replace my stocker.

    Now since I will be tearing down the rear end of the bike for the shock install and cush drive dampener replacements I was wondering if I should be doing any other inspections, replacements or lubing?

    Things that come to mind are checking the eccentric, swing arm pivot bearings (what tool do people use to remove them?) and spindle I don't see anything else that should be checked up on.

    My bike has 23k miles and has been kept garaged all of its life.

    Thanks in advance!
    88' NT650 Hawk - 2nd owner
    <94 F2 front end // Fox TC // Telefix clip on // Hord Uni + 3.0 kit>

    92' VFR 750 - 3rd owner


    86' Rebel 450 - Free off craigslist!

    #2
    eccentric bearing: with wheel installed hold tyre at 12:00 and 6:00 then see if you can rock the rim, if you feel any movement suspect the eccentric bearings and perhaps sprocket bearings as well replace both sets if one needs doing ie eccentric and sprocket bearings.

    I recently had to do this, if you need to replace the bearings (and seals) get the whole eccentric assembly (JD Hords recommendation). Unfortunately costs of doing this in New Zealand were restrictive, but because of the parts availability in the States, this should be cheaper for you.

    As for the swing arm there was a question/post just recently on removing this by NT400

    Tools, a rather large socket 46 mm if memory serves correct for the staked nut on the sprocket side and Honda tool for removal of the swing arm nut/bolt but if you go to that thread by NT400 there of other ways of removing the nut combination given there
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      #3
      Time really flies when you are having fun not working on your motorcycle.

      I am ready to install my Fox Twin Clicker this weekend and I am wondering if I need a chain roller (from Hiperform)?
      88' NT650 Hawk - 2nd owner
      <94 F2 front end // Fox TC // Telefix clip on // Hord Uni + 3.0 kit>

      92' VFR 750 - 3rd owner


      86' Rebel 450 - Free off craigslist!

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        #4
        Originally Posted by thepathlesstaken
        Time really flies when you are having fun not working on your motorcycle.

        I am ready to install my Fox Twin Clicker this weekend and I am wondering if I need a chain roller (from Hiperform)?
        Only if it's longer than the stock item.
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          #5
          If I were you I would remove the swingarm and clean/lube the swingarm pivot bearings and spindle with swingarm lube. I would also consider having your Fox shock rebuilt (if it hasn't just been done) before installing it.
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            #6
            Originally Posted by Crash
            If I were you I would remove the swingarm and clean/lube the swingarm pivot bearings and spindle with swingarm lube.
            this is exactly what i came in to suggest when i read the topic title. nows the time.

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              #7
              Rebuilding the shock will not happen unless I feel it needs to be done as the cost of the rebuild is close to what I paid for the shock.

              Without checking my manual what grease would be used for the swing arm and eccentric? Don't think I can go to my local Honda dealer and pick up a can of "swing arm grease" but I could be wrong.

              Thanks in advance.
              88' NT650 Hawk - 2nd owner
              <94 F2 front end // Fox TC // Telefix clip on // Hord Uni + 3.0 kit>

              92' VFR 750 - 3rd owner


              86' Rebel 450 - Free off craigslist!

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                #8
                You see, now there's the problem with the internet. If you were standing in front of me I would be able to tell if you were being sincere regarding a specific lubrication for the swingarm pivot or if you were trying to be a smartass with your comment.

                I guess the best thing for you to do is to go to your dealer and ask for a "can of "swingarm grease"" and see what happens.

                By the way it comes in a tube marked swingarm pivot lube.

                I could tell you how to make it and save you a trip to the dealer but I still can't tell if your being sincere or just being a jerk so off to the dealer with you.
                Faster than your mother... She's what the pros use.

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                  #9
                  Originally Posted by Crash
                  You see, now there's the problem with the internet. If you were standing in front of me I would be able to tell if you were being sincere regarding a specific lubrication for the swingarm pivot or if you were trying to be a smartass with your comment.

                  I guess the best thing for you to do is to go to your dealer and ask for a "can of "swingarm grease"" and see what happens.

                  By the way it comes in a tube marked swingarm pivot lube.

                  I could tell you how to make it and save you a trip to the dealer but I still can't tell if your being sincere or just being a jerk so off to the dealer with you.
                  Tell us how to make it anyway....I would like to know
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                    #10
                    If you wanna buy a chain roller. I have one ill sell you for 40 plus shipping which is 10 less than hyper forum and it has never been used.

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                      #11
                      Originally Posted by Crash
                      I could tell you how to make it and save you a trip to the dealer but I still can't tell if your being sincere or just being a jerk so off to the dealer with you.
                      So let me try and understand the logic in the statement above.

                      Since you say could save me a trip to the dealer by telling me the answer to what I believe is a straightforward question: Without checking my manual what grease would be used for the swing arm and eccentric?

                      But since you are unable to discern if my question is sincere or in jest. You choose not to answer my question but would rather tell me to go to the dealer to figure out the question.

                      Seems to me that I might have offended someone by saying "Don't think I can go to my local Honda dealer and pick up a can of "swing arm grease" but I could be wrong." The above quoted sentence of mine seems pretty innocuous to me but you never know how someone will construe any communication (verbal, non verbal, written) that you emit.
                      88' NT650 Hawk - 2nd owner
                      <94 F2 front end // Fox TC // Telefix clip on // Hord Uni + 3.0 kit>

                      92' VFR 750 - 3rd owner


                      86' Rebel 450 - Free off craigslist!

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                        #12
                        Originally Posted by thepathlesstaken
                        Originally Posted by Crash
                        I could tell you how to make it and save you a trip to the dealer but I still can't tell if your being sincere or just being a jerk so off to the dealer with you.
                        So let me try and understand the logic in the statement above.

                        Since you say could save me a trip to the dealer by telling me the answer to what I believe is a straightforward question: Without checking my manual what grease would be used for the swing arm and eccentric?

                        But since you are unable to discern if my question is sincere or in jest. You choose not to answer my question but would rather tell me to go to the dealer to figure out the question.

                        Seems to me that I might have offended someone by saying "Don't think I can go to my local Honda dealer and pick up a can of "swing arm grease" but I could be wrong." The above quoted sentence of mine seems pretty innocuous to me but you never know how someone will construe any communication (verbal, non verbal, written) that you emit.

                        Or you can skip the dealer and forum, and head out to Costco instead. There are some anticipated storage issues (it is Costco afterall), however you won't run out anytime soon either.....

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                          #13
                          -NEVER LET YOUR FEARS STAND IN THE WAY OF YOUR DREAMS-
                          Most of the pics I have of my Hawk/Mods: http://gallery.me.com/stevenhowell

                          "Arseing about with my bikes will end in tears." -Keno04

                          "Dress for the slide, not the ride" - ParcNHawk

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                            #14
                            Nice PS AK_Hawk!
                            88' NT650 Hawk - 2nd owner
                            <94 F2 front end // Fox TC // Telefix clip on // Hord Uni + 3.0 kit>

                            92' VFR 750 - 3rd owner


                            86' Rebel 450 - Free off craigslist!

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                              #15
                              Fyi....

                              You do not NEED to remove the swingarm or subframe to swap the rear shock.

                              We swapped 2 last weekend. Just removed the 2 bolts holding them in and swapped em.

                              (It did hel that we unloaded the rear suspension and had 2 guys working on the bike...)
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