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    New Welder Day!

    Got a new Mig/Tig combo for the shop today. Very excited to be able to step away from that lincoln mig.

    I went to harbor freight and we got the "Titanuim" branded Mig/Tig coimbo. 120/240, 200a, with the digital displays. I was going to get a straight tig off amazon, but decided replacing our mig was higher priority than the addition of a straight tig. It just didn't have the sack to do what i needed it to do.

    I can tell you with confidence that if you are on a budget and trying to chose whether to spend your $700 with Lincoln or Harbor freight, spend it with Harbor Freight. This welder is not in the same league as the Lincoln i'm replacing with it. I have to get the spool gun still to do aluminum as it only will tig steel, and it doesnt come with a foot pedal, so ill spend more there too...,But that extra money all goes to helping features the lincoln doesn't even have... Even straight mig to mig, throw the other features away for the purpose of comparison, and the HF welder welds so much better.

    This guy is the one i got.

    https://www.harborfreight.com/Unlimi...put-64806.html


    I did a couple hours with it today to test it out, tomorrow i rebuild the floor in our diesel side by side. Cant wait to play with it all day.



    Don't spend money and buy, spend time and learn.

    #2
    Let me know what you think.

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      #3
      We have one of those we bought as substitute while our Miller 161 STL was in for repairs. Truth is - guys like the little HF Titanium units better.

      WW
      Rebooting

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        #4
        I've always wanted a TIG but the entrance fee was too high. I've wondered if those combo units were any good or if there were compromises. This may be a good choice, as the reviews seem positive. Glad HF is adding choices for different price points.

        Now, for gas, do you have to change between MIG and TIG? Can you have two bottles with a Y hose and just switch between them rather than swapping it out?
        Eric Y.
        1990 Hawk NT663 - 95% finished, 100% fun!.
        https://www.hawkgtforum.com/forum/ho...roject-taka-92

        https://www.flickr.com/photos/eyuzon/albums/72157675070162792


        2001 VFR800i - road trip bike.
        https://www.flickr.com/photos/eyuzon...57666415263457

        1990 CB-1 - budget bike.
        https://www.flickr.com/photos/eyuzon...57710757780347

        Detroit, MI

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          #5
          Originally Posted by wildwhl View Post
          We have one of those we bought as substitute while our Miller 161 STL was in for repairs. Truth is - guys like the little HF Titanium units better.

          WW
          I'm not surprised... Its pretty impressive.


          Originally Posted by eyhonda View Post
          I've always wanted a TIG but the entrance fee was too high. I've wondered if those combo units were any good or if there were compromises. This may be a good choice, as the reviews seem positive. Glad HF is adding choices for different price points.

          Now, for gas, do you have to change between MIG and TIG? Can you have two bottles with a Y hose and just switch between them rather than swapping it out?
          I am not a good enough Tig welder to speak to how well it tigs. Turn to youtube for that would be my suggestion, but from what i have seen it does well.

          Im sending Christian to the store today to get some stuff so i can build a new welding cart that will hold both bottles and the new welder. I will probably just swap the line back and forth. 90% of what i do is mig, so im not super worried about swapping between 75/25 and straight being cumbersome.
          Don't spend money and buy, spend time and learn.

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            #6
            What didn't you like about the Lincoln? I have SP135+ with stepless current control. I'm not that good of a welder either. Still learning but maybe my weakness is attributed to the welder itself. Laying a good bead is a great feeling.
            Eric Y.
            1990 Hawk NT663 - 95% finished, 100% fun!.
            https://www.hawkgtforum.com/forum/ho...roject-taka-92

            https://www.flickr.com/photos/eyuzon/albums/72157675070162792


            2001 VFR800i - road trip bike.
            https://www.flickr.com/photos/eyuzon...57666415263457

            1990 CB-1 - budget bike.
            https://www.flickr.com/photos/eyuzon...57710757780347

            Detroit, MI

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              #7
              Originally Posted by eyhonda View Post
              What didn't you like about the Lincoln? I have SP135+ with stepless current control. I'm not that good of a welder either. Still learning but maybe my weakness is attributed to the welder itself. Laying a good bead is a great feeling.
              First it was not very powerful enough. Almost everything i did i had to have it cranked most of the way up. It no automatic pre and post gas. Those "ballpark" knobs that are on it seem to have no consistency as far as what setting to weld what. I had to mess with that welder every time i used it even if my materials didnt change. . If i was welding for a long time it would start to loose power and i would have to adjust or stop and wait to go again.. The digital readout on the HF machine is WAY better. I know know exactly what its set at. The third know (inductance control} is pretty cool too. Still learning how/when to mess with it.

              Yesterday I fired up this new welder, set all the nobs to center and immediately laid a nicer bead than i ever had on the old welder. Right out the box.

              Today I put the new floor in the side by side. It was great. Many different situations, different thicknesses, inconsistent metal, and i was able to easily adjust to all of them and run that bitch all day with no issues.

              Then at the end of the day i used the new shear, break, roll and i rolled a piece of pipe out of sheet steel. Rolled it into a 29" length of 2.5" exhaust pipe, welded the seam shut and then used it to repair Christians moms car. Didn't burn though, didn't start to fade half way thorough. It just plain worked. The pre-post gas is really nice for clean starts and stops.

              Im not good enough a welder to tell you what may be wrong with this thing, but i'm pretty competent and it's a better welder than i am.
              Don't spend money and buy, spend time and learn.

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                #8
                Nice to hear some real world testing on that rig. I have one sliding around the back of the FJ for the young welder in the house. There was/is a 20% off coupon on any single item in the store. Got it and the to year replacement warrantee for $716.

                Screenshot_20191208-121005.png Even though the fine print says otherwise, the girl at the register just overrode the error.

                Looking forward to getting this opened up and seeing the results.

                Where do you get your gas bottles from?

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                  #9
                  6 ... My Tigger !

                  "Hawk Porn" http://picasaweb.google.com/11124379...eat=directlink 1990 NT650-Penske 8981, Race-tech Springs & Gold Valves, Steve Lenac six-piston caliper & EBC rotor,SS Brake lines Ft / Rear lines through SSA ,VFR brake lever, F2 front wheel, F-120/70 R-160/60 Dunlop Roadsmart, Full-Supertrapp Exhaust, Stage 1 Jet kit, K&N Filter, Corbin Seat, Pro-Tec Clip-On's/ Past Rides...1986 VFR700F2 Interceptor / 1979 Yamaha Rd400 Daytona Special

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                    #10
                    Originally Posted by 6 View Post

                    First it was not very powerful enough. Almost everything i did i had to have it cranked most of the way up. It no automatic pre and post gas. Those "ballpark" knobs that are on it seem to have no consistency as far as what setting to weld what. I had to mess with that welder every time i used it even if my materials didnt change. . If i was welding for a long time it would start to loose power and i would have to adjust or stop and wait to go again.. The digital readout on the HF machine is WAY better. I know know exactly what its set at. The third know (inductance control} is pretty cool too. Still learning how/when to mess with it.

                    Yesterday I fired up this new welder, set all the nobs to center and immediately laid a nicer bead than i ever had on the old welder. Right out the box.

                    Today I put the new floor in the side by side. It was great. Many different situations, different thicknesses, inconsistent metal, and i was able to easily adjust to all of them and run that bitch all day with no issues.

                    Then at the end of the day i used the new shear, break, roll and i rolled a piece of pipe out of sheet steel. Rolled it into a 29" length of 2.5" exhaust pipe, welded the seam shut and then used it to repair Christians moms car. Didn't burn though, didn't start to fade half way thorough. It just plain worked. The pre-post gas is really nice for clean starts and stops.

                    Im not good enough a welder to tell you what may be wrong with this thing, but i'm pretty competent and it's a better welder than i am.
                    Thanks for the info. I think the cleaner welds from more power may be due to the Titanium's inverter power supply. Sort of the difference between old backup power generators and new inverter generators that are smaller, quieter, etc. Plus the pre-post gas is an interesting feature. This may be a future purchase consideration.
                    Eric Y.
                    1990 Hawk NT663 - 95% finished, 100% fun!.
                    https://www.hawkgtforum.com/forum/ho...roject-taka-92

                    https://www.flickr.com/photos/eyuzon/albums/72157675070162792


                    2001 VFR800i - road trip bike.
                    https://www.flickr.com/photos/eyuzon...57666415263457

                    1990 CB-1 - budget bike.
                    https://www.flickr.com/photos/eyuzon...57710757780347

                    Detroit, MI

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                      #11
                      6, sometime in the not too distant future HF is supposed to be coming out with the Vulcan Tig 205, which will be AC/DC Tig welding so I think you made the right choice in this case. Everyone who got one of the older TIG models reported great things (the 200 I think) and it was what would be considered a "Pro-sumer device). I think their pricepoint is still going to be around the 700 to 800 dollar mark, and if I had it to do all over again (and I still may) I will probably pick this one up and re-sell my AHP setup. The Vulcan Tig200 setup had a decent pedal (not perfect), nice digital controls, and was somewhat automatic, so if you had to dial it in it at least gives you a good starting point. I anticipate the new version is going to have the pedal they should have given it initially, and even better torch setup, with the possibility that they may have provisions for adapting to other water cooling setups that some other companies make.

                      88 Blue Hawk GT - Under construction but rideable (guest approved)
                      89 BlackHawk 2.0 - On the lift and being assembled
                      90 Hawk GT (color as to yet be determined) - Still on the shelf in crates

                      2002 DL1000 V-Strom - Workhorse. beat it, flog it, it keeps on going...

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                        #12
                        Also I got the 170 Titanium and it's been a real pleasure to use!!
                        88 Blue Hawk GT - Under construction but rideable (guest approved)
                        89 BlackHawk 2.0 - On the lift and being assembled
                        90 Hawk GT (color as to yet be determined) - Still on the shelf in crates

                        2002 DL1000 V-Strom - Workhorse. beat it, flog it, it keeps on going...

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