Gear Selector issue?

[Jetblack]

Hi all, so I've managed to get the engine from project basket case on my bench and upon taking the clutch cover off have noticed an issue. The gearbox won't cycle through the gears. The shifter rod moves fine and that movement translates via the rod to the clutch side and the associated assembly, but it doesn't seem to actually select any gears. (I've tried to move the selector whilst turning the engine, hoping for the usual positive, mechanical 'click into a gear.

I'm not familiar with these engines yet, so can anyone tell me if:

A) There are any common issues with gear section in these engines I should know about?

B) if the way the gear selector star is sitting looks right? (The Haynes manual doesn't show the selector star clearly enough)

Any other thoughts welcome.

[Realred96]

I hope this helps, here is what mine looks like in neutral with the clutch basket removed....

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[eyhonda]

The black lever assembly moves with the shifter. Does the black lever assembly move the star piece? That star piece has a sprung arm that keeps it in any gear and also makes the click feel. You have to remove your clutch basket to see if it looks like the prior picture from RealRed96. The end of the arm has a follower wheel.

[Jetblack]

Thanks very much, that's really helpful. I'll be removing the clutch today to check it all over so once it's off I'll be able to see what's going on. Thanks very much for the reference photo.

[rpcraft]

Thanks very much, that's really helpful. I'll be removing the clutch today to check it all over so once it's off I'll be able to see what's going on. Thanks very much for the reference photo.

Do you have a copy of the service manual? as in a PDF or otherwise? Check the sticky section and there is one you cand ownload if you need it. It's actually quite good for a lot of detail photo of internals as well.

[Jetblack]

Do you have a copy of the service manual? as in a PDF or otherwise? Check the sticky section and there is one you cand ownload if you need it. It's actually quite good for a lot of detail photo of internals as well.

Yeah, got a PDF of the Haynes.

[yorkshire]

The black lever assembly moves with the shifter. Does the black lever assembly move the star piece? That star piece has a sprung arm that keeps it in any gear and also makes the click feel. You have to remove your clutch basket to see if it looks like the prior picture from RealRed96. The end of the arm has a follower wheel.

Yes the black lever moves the star wheel will like a clock escapement system which cannot be seen on the photo, it is behind the star wheel

[nt650hawk]

rotate the countershaft or rock the rear tire back and forth while shifting....

[rpcraft]

Yeah, got a PDF of the Haynes.

I'm not sure how good the Haynes book is overall but if given a choice between it and the pdf service manual I'm thinking I would go with the service manual, especially given that its available.

[ParcNHawk]

Haynes manuals are for absolute pieces of shit. But the pictures would be for pieces of trash, and there would be a note that your model may differ.

Delete the file and download the Honda FSM.

[rpcraft]

Haynes manuals are for absolute pieces of shit. But the pictures would be for pieces of trash, and there would be a note that your model may differ.

Delete the file and download the Honda FSM.

I was waiting patiently for you to come along and shit on the Haynes "manual", lol.

[ParcNHawk]

I was waiting patiently for you to come along and shit on the Haynes "manual", lol.

Oh they make horrible toilet paper, too