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    Just experienced rocketry on two wheels

    I introduced my friend Andres to riding two years ago. He caught on quick, and was much more conservative than I was in riding. Nonetheless, he has a thing for plastic sport bikes.

    I've always been the test pilot for stuff he buys, cars or bikes. The first bike he wanted was a Katana 600. That was fun and scary. I've since put maybe 500 borrowed miles on that bike since he bought it, and it's been great.

    Today he calls me and asks if I want to go check out a bike with him. It's an injected 1999 GSX-R 750, with moderate street cams and a yoshimura exhaust, I say yes, knowing full well I'd be testing it out.



    Not that that doesn't sound like fun, but it's also a bit scary considering that opening the throttle on one of those is like hitching a ride on the blast wave of an endless explosion.

    I'm an expert at seeming as if I'm quite accustomed to riding bikes that are far faster than I've ever tried. The very first motorbike I ever rode was in Florence Italy 4 years ago, only after I convinced the rental shop owner that I knew how to ride it, having just asked this random chick on a scooter outside to tell me how to start one. The only instruction in my whole life that I've received on how to ride any motorbike was the five seconds when she reached to the front brake, squeezed it, and that allowed the starter to engage.

    I didn't manage to crash that scooter, and I've been faking confident ever since.

    I told the 750's owner that I'd need a very straight, very long road. He told me where to go, and I promptly learned what low altitude rocketry is all about. In first, second, or third gear I was sliding backward to the pillion with no control of my butt friction at all. Talk about nuts.

    So yeah, I rode a bike that'll do a 10 flat in the quarter, making that by far the fastest vehicle I've ever piloted. That was fun and a bit on the scary side.

    Thankfully I didn't drop it. My friend bought it.
    '88 Hawk GT - back in the saddle
    '99 Suzuki GZ250 - the first

    '87 Suzuki GSXR1100/1207cc - traded to get my Hawk back

    #2
    He bought it?

    He is "more conservative" than you?

    I am confused? Why would he buy a "repli-racer" if he is conservative?

    I think I would have steered my friend away. He will never use all that bike has to offer... On second thought there aren't many riders that can use all that bike has to offer and they still buy em.

    Tell him congrats! At least he is "Conservative" and will ride smartly.


    Issac, the next time you ride a fast bike, grip the tank with your knees.
    BIKES: Honda: RC31 Racebike/ NT650 Streetbike, DUCATI: None at the moment.
    Former MSF Rider Coach / Trackday Instructor/ Expert Roadracer #116
    "I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow."

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      #3
      Originally Posted by Doc
      He bought it?

      He is "more conservative" than you?

      I am confused? Why would he buy a "repli-racer" if he is conservative?
      Thought I took care of this with the "plastic sport bikes" comment. He buys faster looking things and rides them slower than me. I'd trust him on anything I own.
      '88 Hawk GT - back in the saddle
      '99 Suzuki GZ250 - the first

      '87 Suzuki GSXR1100/1207cc - traded to get my Hawk back

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        #4
        I would recommend a motorcycle safety foundation class for you.... you will learn things you never thought you should know
        '88 Hawk GT
        '89 Harley FXSTC
        2008 Yamaha V-Star 1300 tourer

        http://www.hawkgtforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=948

        "...my performance ain't perfect, but its loud, and its fast..." -Widespread Panic

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          #5
          I have been the motorcycle safety foundation for three current riders who, years later, are all still alive. Only one of them has crashed, and that was some sand they didn't look for.

          I've also read A Twist of the Wrist and The Complete Idiot's Guide to Motorcycling cover to cover. Still an MSF course could be interesting though.
          '88 Hawk GT - back in the saddle
          '99 Suzuki GZ250 - the first

          '87 Suzuki GSXR1100/1207cc - traded to get my Hawk back

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            #6
            I took the ERC (Experienced riders course) and I went into it thinking why did I need this? I decided to remain positive and I got ALOT out of the course.

            At the end of the day the instructor set up some cones like a lil mini race track and had us "race" around to get the feeling of corners with some speed so we could use what we learned... There was me on my 900ss, a guy on a GSXR 1000 and a guy on a TL1000R, Me and the TL "left" the guy on the GSXR because of our torque at the low speeds with the twins (40mph tops) but i was right up the tailpipe of that TL (I had been to the track earlier in the year)
            When the instructor was done he said "You could have passed him if you wanted to right?" and I said "yeah but you said no passing" He said well you "passed" the course.

            We also did some quick stopping drill and I pulled a couple lil endo's, the instructor did not care for that but he knew I knew what I was doing and just asked me to not brake so hard.

            Take the ERC.
            BIKES: Honda: RC31 Racebike/ NT650 Streetbike, DUCATI: None at the moment.
            Former MSF Rider Coach / Trackday Instructor/ Expert Roadracer #116
            "I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow."

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              #7
              Originally Posted by isaac
              I have been the motorcycle safety foundation for three current riders
              Okay, bro, I'm gonna come down hard here for a minute because you talk like a guy that wants to crash.

              That's some tough talk for a guy who admits to faking confidence from day one. Reading one Keith Code book and an Idiot's Guide doesn't make anybody an expert, even if Jay Leno said so in the foreword. You started riding when? Four years ago on a scooter? C'mon. At least take the class before you start talking like you're too big and bad to need it.

              Listen, you happen to be a Hawker so I actually give a shit if you hurt yourself. The stuff I learned in MSF has saved me from some serious accidents. "This is the clutch, and that's the brake" with your friends is one thing, but I wouldn't go selling yourself as a substitute for real rider training. At least suggest that they follow up with MSF or something.

              Just be careful out there, okay hotshot? Yeah, yeah, I know - this is all coming from a guy who was asking you how to wheelie like, yesterday. But we don't wanna lose anybody around here.

              (Coming down off the soapbox now.)
              1988 "BlackHawk" project
              1989 "RallyHawk" is Chuck's now!
              1988 "The Gray" Tempest Gray Metallic stocker

              I can't tell you how peaceful it is. Shinya Kimura
              People who know ride Hawks. Riot

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                #8
                "Be easy on the Beaver, Ward."
                BIKES: Honda: RC31 Racebike/ NT650 Streetbike, DUCATI: None at the moment.
                Former MSF Rider Coach / Trackday Instructor/ Expert Roadracer #116
                "I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow."

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                  #9
                  ops:
                  'Kay.
                  1988 "BlackHawk" project
                  1989 "RallyHawk" is Chuck's now!
                  1988 "The Gray" Tempest Gray Metallic stocker

                  I can't tell you how peaceful it is. Shinya Kimura
                  People who know ride Hawks. Riot

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                    #10
                    Originally Posted by isaac
                    Still an MSF course could be interesting though.
                    BIKES: Honda: RC31 Racebike/ NT650 Streetbike, DUCATI: None at the moment.
                    Former MSF Rider Coach / Trackday Instructor/ Expert Roadracer #116
                    "I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow."

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                      #11
                      Guess I had a gut reaction to what I thought was the tone of the post... my apologies to Isaac if I flew off the handle.

                      Seriously though... I hope you consider the MSF thingie. But then, I've heard it's a real joke in some places, and great in others, so YMMV. I guess I was lucky to find a really good MSF class through Trauma's Auto School in NY. Don't know what they're like in FL or anywhere else for that matter. You've got a year's experience on me, to be honest -- and with all the sunny weather down there I bet you ride year round, so double that number I guess... you get twice the riding out of the year than I do and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if you're the better rider (and frankly, you probably are the better rider between us!).
                      1988 "BlackHawk" project
                      1989 "RallyHawk" is Chuck's now!
                      1988 "The Gray" Tempest Gray Metallic stocker

                      I can't tell you how peaceful it is. Shinya Kimura
                      People who know ride Hawks. Riot

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                        #12
                        I think Isaac has demonstrated that he has some pretty good riding chops. What the experienced rider course covers are things that can happen that you don't expect, and demonstrates the skills you need to avoid becoming a statistic, like running over a 2 by 4 that just fell off the truck ahead, etc. These things happen, and trained riders often react in a manner that keeps them on two wheels instead of sliding into the oncoming lane. Where Isaac lives his biggest danger are grey haired drivers who may or may not still be capable of driving! Every year at Daytona bike week several motorcyclists are killed by car drivers "who didn't see them".. know the raods you are riding fast on, beware of oncoming drivers who may turn into your path, and join the AMA so they can get some laws on the books that penalize people that hurt and kill vunerable road users, like us. In most states you can be killed by an inatentive car driver and their only penalty is a $50 fine for violating your right of way. Motorcycles are fun, are great transportation, but be careful!
                        '88 Hawk GT
                        '89 Harley FXSTC
                        2008 Yamaha V-Star 1300 tourer

                        http://www.hawkgtforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=948

                        "...my performance ain't perfect, but its loud, and its fast..." -Widespread Panic

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