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    #16
    Yep, company without strong leadership who is willing to take risks to stay ahead. They still make quality stuff but donít seem to have a visionary running things

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      #17
      It's much more than that. The Japanese economy had never recovered to remotely allow what they could do from 86-92,they could afford to take so many chances. This is the main issue but the only nations that are buying huge numbers of machines aren't buying things we think are cool.

      I bitch about lack of cool stuff these days and how Honda has sucked since Soichiro died but do understand. That said,I have a leftover CRF250L Rally waiting for me...it's a 2018 so obviously not many thought it was very cool.

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        #18
        I bought that innovative bike a few years back, it was more expensive , & called a Yamaha WR250R back then. I still enjoy it, just doesnít seem innovative to me in a way.

        congrats on the new thumper!

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