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    Crazy Europeans at it again, Hawk EFI project

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJU6CJjnFSE

    guess what those Europeans are up to again.
    also known as Pretpiloot.

    riding the scraphawk, and the Frankenstein CB250RS

    #2
    What a huge waste of time and energy.To what end add FI to a Hawk?

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      #3
      We know you hate it Bill, but... lol.
      J.D. Hord
      Keeper of Engine Nomenclature, 9th Order

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        #4
        I'm with Bill. I like the carbs on a Hawk. Very easy to work on. It would be nice not to have to mess with a choke but other than that I don't see the point. I don't think it would add much power and it would add a lot of complexity.
        Brian - Richland, WA
        1991 Hawk GT
        1997 VFR

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          #5
          I don't even mind the choke, I never need to keep mine on for more than 30 seconds and that's just for a few months out of the year. The rest of the time it starts up without it.

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            #6
            No choke, no worry about clogged jets... Enough for me.

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              #7
              Ah ... possible better MPG but fueling and spark maps for a build motor would be the real winner.
              Yeah its still whipping a dead horse, but if ya got that kind if time and money ...
              "Hawk Porn" http://picasaweb.google.com/11124379...eat=directlink 1990 NT650-Penske 8981, Race-tech Springs & Gold Valves, Steve Lenac six-piston caliper & EBC rotor,SS Brake lines Ft / Rear lines through SSA ,VFR brake lever, F2 front wheel, F-120/70 R-160/60 Dunlop Roadsmart, Full-Supertrapp Exhaust, Stage 1 Jet kit, K&N Filter, Corbin Seat, Pro-Tec Clip-On's/ Past Rides...1986 VFR700F2 Interceptor / 1979 Yamaha Rd400 Daytona Special

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                #8
                Maybe they have a new Marine billet crank to support the power.Who Knows?

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                  #9
                  No choke, no clogged jets, zero compromises in fueling maps (where in a carb a bigger mainjet for better top end can result in a rich mid end etc), no fiddling with jets, nozzels, needles and screws, no lifting the tank for small adjustments, fully optimizable ignition mapping, better MPG,

                  but most of all, BECAUSE IT CAN BE DONE, so why not?
                  just like someone racing a Hawk while it is cheaper to buy an SV650 or ER6 and race that.
                  It's just a fun project. most expensive part is the ECU which is about 400, the rest of the parts is home made or fleebay stuff.

                  Ever bought a new set of OEM carb slide membranes?? a few bucks more and you have a brand spanking new ECU
                  also known as Pretpiloot.

                  riding the scraphawk, and the Frankenstein CB250RS

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                    #10
                    So instead of clogged jets, which you can clean easily, you're going to put injectors into the mix, on a gas tank that is 25'ish years old and full of sediment, rust, gunk, and not to mention the shit that ethanol powered fuel is doing to the inside of your fuel lines and filters? Yeah... That won't cause any problems... Now, I think the idea of having a bike you can start and be dependable (until the previously mentioned junk in your proverbial trunk pops up) is a nice idea, but it's not without problems that go above and beyond the obvious...

                    I just hope noone spends a grand on parts thinking they are going to be getting 60 mpg all of the sudden, but it would be nice, so long as it doesn't cut into the already limited power of the Hawk...
                    88 Blue Hawk GT - Under construction but rideable (guest approved)
                    89 BlackHawk 2.0 - On the lift and being assembled
                    90 Hawk GT (color as to yet be determined) - Still on the shelf in crates

                    2002 DL1000 V-Strom - Workhorse. beat it, flog it, it keeps on going...

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                      #11
                      uh, $40US for new diaphragms vs 400 Euros?
                      Brian - Richland, WA
                      1991 Hawk GT
                      1997 VFR

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                        #12
                        You really think I would put a rusted nackered old tank on a project like that? HAHAHAHA

                        And as far as the ethanol resistance goes:

                        A; mount the setup using ethanol resistant components, it is 2015 you know.....
                        B: Here in Europe there is plenty of ethanol free fuel available.

                        And no, I am not expecting miracles of the conversion in terms of MPG or power.
                        As far as power goes, the heads you see in the youtube video are stage2 Hord heads with 28mm inlet valves, a set of #9's, adjustable cam sprockets, Carillo rods, Hord spec 696 buckets and a full Hiperform stainless exhaust system. But the engine tune up is happening after I get the entire fueling set-up right and up and running.

                        Hell you gave me a rad idea on the fly, why not go the extra mile and score a Ducati Monster tank with an internal fuel pump and regulator?
                        also known as Pretpiloot.

                        riding the scraphawk, and the Frankenstein CB250RS

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                          #13
                          Fair enough.I've done a lot of things for the sake of Doing it.But I gotta say....I've ridden my Stocker and one with 90 hp.Both,when properly maintained,have Flawless manners.I have a bike with FI,ridden many.It's nice for the Dunderhead factor-relatively foolproof and reliable.You can definitely be lazy in your maintenance.I LIKE fiddling with Jets,nozzles ,needles and screws.And the
                          important thing......I don't like computers and software . Besides it's my JOB to represent the Con in most debates here on the Forum.Otherwise it's one big daisy- chain circle- jerk.

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                            #14
                            For the record I do like the idea. Is it practical? Debatable. Is it a cool project? Oh hell yeah!
                            J.D. Hord
                            Keeper of Engine Nomenclature, 9th Order

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                              #15
                              Definitely a cool project.

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